Ussrdolphin Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Hello folks. If doing a fire risk assessment of an office and assessing the number of occupants the escape routes can accommodate when would you use the Building Regulations and when Building Standards. The latter allows for a lot more people it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Firstly I assume we are talking about England or Wales. What do you mean by using building regulations, do you mean, Approved Document B, BS 9999 or BS 7974 and what do you mean by building standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyB Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 If it's an existing building the government risk assessment guides contain details on determining suitability. After that Approved Document B could be used. BS9999 only applies if a building is constructed in accordance with it and you can't apply individual parts of it to existing buildings - for it to be used a premises must meet the whole document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ussrdolphin Posted March 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Thanks for the replies. I'm a union safety rep and have just done a week Fire Assessor training and have begun a risk assessment of the building where I work. So sorry for the lack of clarity! The building in question was constructed in the 1980s. It is a three story office building with workshops attached. Water company. My concern is the first floor area which is used by call centre and admin staff. The maximum occupancy of the floor is 300. It is an open plan office in an H shape. There are two protected staircases as escape routes. Each escape route can be accessed by two fire doors - one on each side of the H. So if I exclude the largest staircase this leaves a rear staircase accessed by two 1200mm doors both leading to a narrower staircase - 1100mm. Now when I looked at DCLG I thought that would mean it could accommodate 200. I asked the facilities manager to clarify and he said he has a different view and referred to Building Regulations and the fact that people were familiar with the building and awake. So he is referring to BS9999. I think when I referred to Building Standards I was referring to Approved Document B. This is a steep learning curve for me so thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted March 29, 2019 Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 As it is most likely to be an existing premises, as AB said, you should be using the appropriate DCLG guides. so check out https://www.firesafe.org.uk/regulatory-reform-fire-safety-order-2005/ If you are carrying out work that is subject to the Building Regulations then you should be using one of there three guides that was used during contruction and do not cherry pick, use only one guide for the whole of the building. Check out https://www.firesafe.org.uk/fire-risk-assessment/ and https://www.firesafe.org.uk maybe useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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