Guest GPenn Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Dear Sir or Madam, i carry out maintenance in a care home. How long should it take for a fire door to shut from fully open i.e. 90 deg open? Kind regards, Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 The appropriate standard is BS EN 1154 but it is not easy to interpret, but I will research it further and get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 As I have said it is not easy to interpret but it appears, assuming it is not a delayed door closer, the total closing and latching time should range from three to seven seconds. If it is a delayed closing device then the total closing and latching time should range from 20 seconds to 30 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Difference? Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 What's the difference between a normal closer and a delayed closing device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 A normal closer operates as the door is opened and closes it immediately the door is released. A delayed closing device allows the door to close when activated by a third party device like the fire alarm. https://www.ifsecglobal.com/hold-open-door-closers-devices-uses-limitations/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bradley Pallister Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 20 hours ago, Tom Sutton said: A normal closer operates as the door is opened and closes it immediately the door is released. A delayed closing device allows the door to close when activated by a third party device like the fire alarm. https://www.ifsecglobal.com/hold-open-door-closers-devices-uses-limitations/ Tom We are talking about three different types of closer here. 'Normal' closer - as you say, closes the door as soon as it is released. Delayed-action closer - this is a specific type of closer that has a function that is normally adjustable to give a delay from a few seconds to up to several minutes. It is not activated by any third party devices. A closer that is activated by a third party device can be a normal closer. It is normally installed in conjunction with an electromag 'hold-open' device, which is basically a electromagnet on the wall which keeps the door in the open position. If the fire alarm is activated, the electromagnet releases, and the closer starts operating as normal and closes the door. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Thanks Bradley I have seen your article https://www.quora.com/What-is-Delayed-Action-On-A-Door-Closer and I would think it is useful when dealing with wheelchairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cat lady Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Hi. My son lives in a new-build block of flats, on the 2nd floor. There is a fire door when you reach the top of the stairs, which you go through to access the two flats. This has a closer, and the door pushes open easily but then shuts quickly, with a bang - not good when coming home late at night! Should this door closely quickly, then shut slowly at the last minute? also, his front door (a fire door) shuts REALLY REALLY slowly and then shut with a bang at the last minute. It is VERY hard to push the door shut once yr in the flat, and even harder to pull it closed when you leave the flat Both these seem highly odd to me …….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil ashdown Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 From what you say, it seems the self-closing devices have been incorrectly installed or possibly poorly adjusted. Contact a competent fire door installer / maintainer for assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frustrated Ed Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 re above issue I’ve had this problem in sheltered housing flat for a long long time 3yrs the exit/entrance to rear off building are two fire doors one on corridor the other opposit is exterior door Constant banging when each door is opened and closed. I’ve requested numerous times to have them adjusted one closer was taken off door . Door reversed but it’s still the same . My question is . Is this main back door to the building has a bar on it too push open from inside snd has a turn lock so when closed to lock the door then turn the knob which locks door . problem is some residents turn knob so that they can come back in without using a key surely this is a risk . but it is not and can not be monitored 24/7 . is this in line with Regulations. thier are other doors into the building but this door is in daily constant use what if anything can be done to elevate the issue . I suggested a Closer which can hold inner door open and release on fire alarm going off which you can purchase but been informed this is not within Guidelines for Fire regulations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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