Guest henryK Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I would appreciate some advice or a recommendation as to where I can get further assistance. My insurance company is insisting that all ground floor windows have key operated locks. We have double glazed windows fitted approx 3 years ago and they have said that they do not supply key operated locks for fire safety reasons, ie. fire exit. Who is correct? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Download Approved Document B - Fire Safety: Volume 1 - Dwellinghouses and check the bottom of page 17 which now shows locks on escape window are acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 The ADB clearly accepts locks and child stays on escape windows in domestic premises which I think is acceptable. In non domestic premises keys usually in glass fronted boxes are a strict no. no because of the number of people involved, the wrong key in the box or covered in metal foil which is likely to create serious problems. In domestic premises they would be of last resort and the keys are most likely to be in the lock, number of people will be small and the head of the household is likely to ensure the windows are available, for normal use if nothing else. Reliable fire detectors should ensure the principle MoE will be available if needed, so escape windows are a last resort but still necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LizMa Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I work for a fostering agency and we have foster carers who have a fire window fitted in one of the bedrooms where a child sleeps. Are they able to put locks or restrictors on such windows as the child has been threatening to jump out of his window so we need to safeguard him and somehow prevent the windows from opening but so they are still easily accessible in the event of a fire. Please can you advise. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 You can fit locks and stays on emergency access windows check out 2.8 Approved Document B (fire safety) volume 1: dwellinghouses page 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracey Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I had windows fitted approx, 10m ago in an upstairs childs bedroom. The night locks didn't fit and work properly and we were told that according to fire regulations they are not allowed to fit windows with a night catch lock any more. Anyone heard anything about this? Wondering if I've been given wrong information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 It should read, Check out Main changes in volume 1 of Approved Document B (Fire Safety) intro page. It allows locks and child resistant safety stays may be provided on escape windows. Approved Document B (fire safety) volume 1: Dwellinghouses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 On 09/03/2017 at 17:47, Tom Sutton said: It should read, Check out Main changes in volume 1 of Approved Document B (Fire Safety) intro page. It allows locks and child resistant safety stays may be provided on escape windows. Approved Document B (fire safety) volume 1: Dwellinghouses Does this include flats? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 The same applies to Approved Document B (fire Safety) volume 2: Premises other than Dwelling Houses look up the section, "main changes in the 2006 edition". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 How can it be right that we can fit locks an district order to fire escape windows upstairs in a dwelling house but the maximum height of 1100mm is critical and can’t be any higher seems like madness to me if the windows locked I don’t get out if it’s 20mm to high breaks building regs but I get out alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 If you have a lock with a removable key then it should be available for use if required, mine I keep in the lock. I would imagine the height is based on what is considered a high window cill (bathroom for instant) but once set, do you allow a tolerance, which ADB doesn't, then it is left up to the enforcing officer and some, I am afraid, are code huggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KGasson Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 In the 2019 edition volume 1 2.10, c permits locks and opening stays to be fitted to escape windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joyce Lawson Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 We bought a new built house in 2018. One upstairs fire safety window lock has stuck on locked, and cannot be opened. Does the builder still have a responsibility to repair this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Sutton Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 That is between you and the building contractor or who sold the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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