Does a screwed-on fire door sign make a fire door invalid?

[Guest AngharadW]

I'd like some advise on whether screwing a door sign into a fire door stops it being functioning fire door.

Please advise.

Thanks a lot for your help,
Angharad

[Tom Sutton]

The screws would be very small and it would be unlikely to affect the fire resistance of the door.

[Guest Neil Ashdown]

HI,

Tom is correct, usually the screws used to fix signage would be so small as to cause no problem. But you are correct to raise the issue because most fire resisting doors are made from naturally insulating timber. if you remove timber from a door to fit a concealed door closer, mortice lock, bolt through handles or in some cases hinges then you are replacing timber with metal which will conduct heat and may contribute to increased charring and thus early integrity failure of the door.

In such cases there are intumescent protection kits available to retain the insulating properties of the fire door. You can find out more about fire doors at www.fdis.co.uk

Neil.

Btw. use of correct sinage is mandatory for fire and escape doors.

[Guest Safety Signs Express]

Hi

In addition to Neil's statement use of correct signage is mandatory for fire and escape doors this is correct and all fire doors should have a Fire

door keep shut notice fixed to either side of them at eye level. If in in doubt about using screws these signs are available in self adhesive.

[green-foam]

Safelincs supply a variety of signs, some of which are self adhesive. CLICK ME

[Guest Fire door with coat hooks]

Can I screw coat hooks to a fire door?

 

[Neil Ashdown MAFDI]

A coat hook fixed to a fire door using small gauge short screws would be OK.

[Guest Andy]

I work in a care home.

We have a tea room with a plain fire door that i would like to make look more tea room like. 

Am i able to stick wood moulding to one side of the door?

Would it need to be hardwood?

My thinking at the moment is as long as it dosnt change the integrity of the door or interfere with it closing itll be fine.

Is this right?

Cheer Andy

[Tom Sutton]

I would agree providing you are not cutting into the door, adding mouldings, soft or hardwood, would be acceptable, providing you are not going to increase the surface spread of flame properties. 

[Guest Jo Scott]

Whilst on the subject of screwing things to fire doors, would fitting access control magnetic locks (linked to the fire alarm system) to a fire door invalidate its certification?

[AnthonyB]

Possibly, especially if the bolts for the catch plate go straight through the door and out the other side - the door manufacturer should be consulted as to what they will permit.

[Ian Cavanagh]

On 23/02/2021 at 10:03, Guest Jo Scott said:

Whilst on the subject of screwing things to fire doors, would fitting access control magnetic locks (linked to the fire alarm system) to a fire door invalidate its certification?

It depends on the door and the certification it has.if I had to say ‘generally’ it would be that maglocks using through-door fixings should not be fitted where avoidable and definitely not above a glazed aperture.