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  1. Ideally there should only be one fastening, however thumb turns are commonly used in housing. The yale type lock is more of a problem as it looks like the type that can be key locked from the inside.
  2. Here is the guidance: https://www.cieh.org/media/1244/guidance-on-fire-safety-provisions-for-certain-types-of-existing-housing.pdf Depending on the type and thickness and number of layers of board the existing plasterboard may be sufficient.
  3. Yes - extra areas must be included - see: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-act-addendum/fire-safety-act-addendum
  4. Depends what the detectors were there for - if part of a common system for full evacuate then heats is the normal provision because of the resultant false alarm risk which leads to vandalism and apathy to the alarm sounding - it would also be a Part 1 system. After all the system is not the for life safety of the flat of origin, that's what the local Part 6 systems to each flat are for. If It's a weird system where one system is trying to be both the common system and local system (not unheard of and common in HMO's and some conversions) then smokes are a must and hush buttons or Cause & Effect programming be used to prevent site wide false alarms.
  5. It depends on what premises you are looking at, there is a lot of training and CPD needed to be a competent risk assessor, the NEBOSH Fire qualification is a basic entry level course.
  6. If the house has been converted into commercial premises it won't be stay put (an individual flat or house isn't stay out anyway!) and should have a suitable fire alarm system and evacuation strategy. If the conversion went through the correct planning permission & building control process then you would have been required to install emergency lighting. You should also have a Fire Risk Assessment which would address all this.
  7. ADB is a design guide not a risk assessment guide for existing premises. Risk assessment guidance contains what you are looking for regarding Perkos For flats use: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-in-purpose-built-blocks-of-flats For sheltered housing use: https://www.nationalfirechiefs.org.uk/write/MediaUploads/NFCC Guidance publications/NFCC_Specialised_Housing_Guidance_-_Copy.pdf
  8. AnthonyB

    Mr

    Part 6 - but for Grade A systems it simply refers you to the Part 1 service regime (as it's the same kit)
  9. No, it means they have to be assessed as part of a Fire Risk Assessment. Doors and windows wouldn't automatically need to be fire resistant except in the situations they already would have needed to be (usually certain external balcony access situations). The walls will depend on their make up, building height and what other protective measures are present in the block (e.g. sprinklers, full evacuate alarms, etc),
  10. Which make of alarm, it sounds bizarre! You don't have smoke detectors where they could be affected by cooking, e.g. open plan to landing or doors open.
  11. They are unlikely to require replacement based on age of install, third party certification & the related marking of fire doors isn't mandatory however many organisations are insisting on replacement in any case because they can't prove the history of the door (despite lack of self closers being the bigger fire door issue in Grenfell which kicked off all the current mania on doors). You can get several different visual styles of fire door so as to suit aesthetics of different locations (& also of different security grades) however it sounds like the HA is going for the simplest, plainest and cheapest doorsets it can get away with!
  12. It depends on the paint, some normal water based paints don't lend themselves to surface spread of flame, others do hence the existence of fire retardant versions. The designer and their incumbent fire engineer will have produced a design fire strategy which will identify the requirements for that area and the principle contractor needs to select a suitable product to meet that. If it's an escape corridor there may be a need to meet BS Class 0/Euro Class B performance - the fire strategy should dictate this. Paint becomes more of an issue the more layers there were, if you were redecorating by painting over existing painted walls then this would be more of an issue than a couple of new layers on a plaster skim.
  13. They are for temporary/site use. Systems in buildings are required by the Health & Safety (Safety Signs & Signals) Regulations 1996 to have two sources of power and a fire alarm system to BS5839-1 is required where the control panel, connected to the mains, powers the system on 24V and has batteries to back up the system if the power fails. Small single storey premises where a shout could be clearly heard throughout do not need an electrical fire alarm system unless their layout presents a need (e.g. inner room situation) and you could in theory use a stand alone here as more effective than a shout with verbal warning being a back up if it fails. You can link some standby alarms, but the installation would be non compliant in many ways if not a temporary site.
  14. AnthonyB

    Mr

    Agreed, sounds like the batteries!
  15. No, the listed status of a building does not allow occupiers to be put at increased risk. If it's had electricity and light fittings added already then it will usually be possible to put emergency lighting in with ease, especially if you use conversion kits in existing fittings. Also check the listing at English Heritage - often it's the exterior of the building that is listed, not always the interior (& not always all aspects either)
  16. Use FB Marketplace, far less strict!
  17. DCLG Sleeping Risk Guide is currently for commercial premises such as hotels. For residential blocks it has been superseded by the below LACORS is for shared houses, ***'s and houses converted to flats not in according with the modern building regulations for purpose built flats. The Government (former LGA) Guide for Fire Safety in Purpose Built Flats is for purpose built flats of all ages The NFCC Guide for Specialised Housing is for Sheltered Housing and Supported Living The order of publication of the guides was DCLG in 2008, LACORS in 2008, LGA 2011 (republished 2021), NFCC 2017
  18. Q1. Even if every flat has it's own entrance if deemed part of the same building then in theory based on how you read it yes, the FSA would apply - however as this would potentially pull in semi detached houses I think the guidance that is to be released may well clarify that it only applies to buildings with internal common parts as well. Q2. Yes
  19. The FB range consists of only mortice and padlock keys and a drop key - that sellers description is misleading as it's not for the 'Yale' style of Spring cylinder lock used in most dry risers, but a rim lock taking a mortice style key. Best bet is asking whoever tests your dry riser as they will need the keys to do so, last resort is a lock smith
  20. You've already posted this question!
  21. Quite possibly - the recently resurrected purpose built flat guide will help https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-in-purpose-built-blocks-of-flats
  22. Generally yes. A photoluminescent way guidance system can be a useful alternative, but only if done correctly (which is quite costly) and to ensure the material is 'charged' so it glows at full intensity for the required period you would need to leave your normal lighting on most of not all the time, so in the end the low consumption LED emergency lighting may work out cheaper in the longer term. If you want to seriously investigate the way guidance option contact https://jalite.com/safety_signs_means_of_escape who will put you in touch with a suitably trained and experienced distributor who can carry out a survey for you.
  23. If they are blue in white plugged they are 30/30 doors to the old standard and as long as there are intumescent strips in the door or frame and have the right ironmongery are effectively FD30 doors. If the installers back in the day just used a 25mm stop this invalidates the plug marking as it requires the intumescent for the performance to be acceptable. The 25mm stop dates back to before the existence of intumescent strips and if you have a door with the correct strips then the stop on a single door is immaterial. They would still be notional doors though and acceptable under the purpose built flat guide (which has been re-issued recently although a full revision is underway). Having said that I'd be more comfortable adding the intumescent strip that should always have been there and if doing that the additional cost of intumescent strips with cold smoke seals as oppose to just the strip is negligible enough such that you might as well go all the way and restore it to FD30S status. Your agent is covering themselves really - at least they aren't in the militant "rip out every door and door frame in the country and replace new" brigade that seem to be increasing in traction!
  24. Yes to stop a fire in your flat preventing escape through the internal common stair and likewise making fire fighter access difficult. Flat front doors are primarily to protect others not the flat on fire. Whoever is the freeholder (or the TMC if all the flat owners share it) should have carried out a Fire Risk Assessment which, if suitable & sufficient, should have considered this, it's been a legal requirement for 15 years!
  25. AnthonyB

    Mr

    It could be of it forms an obstruction or narrows the path down the ramp to under 800mm.
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