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The BS I quoted from is BS 5839-1:2013 but the current one should be similar and yes they should be a BGU at each exit of a building.
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Yes, FD30s if they open onto a common area.
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I cannot see any difference to having a door or not as far as fire safety is concerned but you may require it for other reasons check it out with the building inspector.
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I cannot give a definitive reply without a survey or at least more information, but walking the perimeter may be acceptable if it leads to ultimate safety depending on the numbers that are likely to use the route, and all external doors/windows may have to be fire resistant, you need a fire risk assessor to check it out.
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I agree count the two exits for escape capacity purposes, but I think it would be single travel direction, from the bar end to the opening to the toilets, then you could count it as an alternate, when calculating the travel distances. Check out Approved Document B (fire Safety) volume 2: Premises other than Dwelling Houses
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You are in the incorrect section your question doesn't relate to previous questions.
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All glass types are available on a supply-only basis but it must always be fitted into a frame that has the appropriate test evidence, using the glazing seals and bead types that are approved for that particular glazed system. Competent persons who have the relevant specialist knowledge must always carry out the installation of the glazed system, according to the construction and components given in the accompanying evidence of performance. Fire-resistant glass must only be used as part of an appropriately approved glazed system. Check out http://www.ggf.org.uk/?geodir_search=1&stype=gd_place&s=Fire+Resistant+Glazing&sgd_placecategory[]=&snear=&sgeo_lat=&sgeo_lon=
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The walls of the unit could be 4 X 3 studding with 12mm fire resistant plasterboard on each side, skimmed or taped. The doors would have to be 30FDs, either standard or bespoked.
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I am assuming NYC stands for New York City and with the terminology used, it sounds that you must be from over the pond. As I have much difficulty understanding UK legislation to get involved with USA legislation, is a strict NO NO for me and most I would think in this forum.
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I think it is pretty obvious that there is a fault, and the sounders should operate and the zone flash red, you need to get in touch with your fire alarm company, getting them to sort out the problem.
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I think it is pretty obvious that there is a fault, and the sounders should operate and the zone flash red, you need to get in touch with your fire alarm company, getting them to sort out the problem.
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Does wooden furniture need to be fireproofed?
Tom Sutton replied to a topic in Passive Fire Protection
Any woodwork does not need to be fire resistant but any upholstery needs to meet the regulations. -
CONFUSED BY MY BUILDINGS EMERGENCY LIGHTING
Tom Sutton replied to Terry's topic in Emergency Lighting
I think you are correct the system does appear to be not functioning as it should and any good installer should take the future testers into consideration when wiring the system. -
The modern guidance clearly does not recommend this, but for the need of privacy you could provided a fire exit sign which is visible when the curtains are closed, they run freely, and a 150mm gap between floor and the bottom of the curtain. You could check it out with the enforcing authority to see if they would accept this, how they would react is anybody's guess.
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Thanks Richard I will add it to my collection and in answer to Ron all the points he raised can fail except the electrical power failure, which may happen if there is no fire emergency, so BS 7273-4 requires a green BGU or a manual release because it is the most reliable system to ensure the door can be opened from the inside. Incidentally my interpretation of SBD New Homes 2016 - Clause 27.8, in not compromised.
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1. With less than sixty persons requiring means of escape, it is acceptable for fire exit doors to open inwards. 2. When the normal electric lighting switch off, how much borrowed light is there when the light outside is at its lowest, during the time the premises is occupied, is there sufficient borrowed light to find your way from the treatment room/corridor and safely escape to the fire exit doors, if there is then EL is not required.
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CONFUSED BY MY BUILDINGS EMERGENCY LIGHTING
Tom Sutton replied to Terry's topic in Emergency Lighting
I cannot help you with your problem I think you would need to have the installer to explain it or have wiring diagrams showing how it was done. I also understand you can have test switches that will operate the whole of the sub circuit, groups or individual luminaires. What I can say is you cannot use the trip to test them because BS 5266 part 1 is clear, that the system should be tested without interrupting the normal lights. Also the the EL system should operate if there is an interruption to a sub circuit and all luminaires associated with that sub circuit should operate also failure of the mains supply should operate the whole system. -
Does ventilation grille damage fire door?
Tom Sutton replied to a topic in Fire Doors and Accessories
Check out Fire and Smoke Resistant Dampers / Air Transfer Grilles it is important to use the correct terminology.- 20 replies
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The divan base and the mattress is separate items and therefore require individual labelling, if the mattress is separated from the divan base then there would be no permanent label to indicate the divan base met the standards. Check out Fire safety of furniture and furnishings in the home - A Guide to the UK Regulations
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Get his requirement in writing and appeal he/she must realise we now work in an area of fire risk assessment which is clearly agreed in the appropriate document. I cannot guarantee you would win but at least you would have an official response.
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The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 article 9(3) says "Any such assessment must be reviewed by the responsible person regularly so as to keep it up to date" and does not give a frequency but it is generally accepted that 12 months is reasonable. Yes you can do it yourself if you feel competent, the guide would be HOUSING – FIRE SAFETY Guidance on fire safety provisions for certain types of existing housing. Study the legislation and the guide then decide if you are the Responsible Persons and are competent enough to carry out the FRA.
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I am afraid I am not aware of source for the above information and modern guidance clearly does not recommend this however if you go into any theatre or cinema in the country you will find curtains covering the final exit doors which has been the situation for many years. What do you do if you are conducting a FRA, tell them to remove them or fire risk the situation. When I had to, I used the general guidance of the day, which is what I said above and considered it to be a adequate, but the final say is with the enforcing officer/RP.
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The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 article 9(3) says "Any such assessment must be reviewed by the responsible person regularly so as to keep it up to date" and does not give a frequency but it is generally accepted that 12 months are reasonable. Yes you can do it yourself if you feel competent, the guide would be HOUSING – FIRE SAFETY Guidance on fire safety provisions for certain types of existing housing. Study the legislation and the guide then decide if you are the Responsible Persons and are competent enough to carry out the FRA.
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Helena you need you need to give much more information, the layout of the flat, how many floors, which floor is your flat on, is the building control involved, as there is a very good chance they should be, and finally is the premises a Purpose Built Blocks of Flats or a converted house. There could also be further questions depending on your response.
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Check out http://www.apollo-fire.com/media/26689/PP2060_AlarmSense_EPG_Issue_1.pdf. may be of some help.