Tom Sutton

Approved document B (Fire Safety) has been revised is now the the 2019 version. Check out https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-approved-document-b.

The fire and rescue service (FRS) will deal with the chairman but you are all RP,s and responsible for the implementation of the The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 . Assuming the FRA has been conducted by an outside person, it is a guidance document and which items should be implemented is a decision for the committee, but could be overruled by the FRS if an audit is carried out by them, also any additional items that has been missed could be included.

No prob.

Are you simple confirming what has been suggested?

Q. How wide does that passage have to be? A. This will depend on the number of persons likely to use it. Q. Are there any requirements for the flooring... can it be gravelled or does it have to be concreted/paved? A. No, as long it is safe to use. Q. Are there any requirements for the exit gate into the park? Width? Can it be a wooden gate? A. It could be a wooden gate providing it is easily opened without the need of a key and again the width will depend on the numbers likely to use it. Q. Does there have to be any specific handle/opening mechanism? A. No, providing it is easily opened without the need of a key. Will this pasageway be on your land and under your control.

You are all Responsible Persons and are required to jointly to implement The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 which includes conducting a FRA. You do not have to nominate RP the FSO does this (art 3) and there is more to the order than just conducting a FRA. The owner of the basement flat does have a legal responsibility but calculating the costs of implementing the FSO would be up to the management company.

A fire exit could be use for any purposes as long it is available in the event of a fire, if required to escape. This is not a fire safety matter it is a legal matter and it would depend on your terms and condition of you tenancy agreement so I would suggest you seek tthe advice of a lawyer.

Thank you kidde support team for such authoritive support.

I agree with you there should be smoke and heat fire dampers fitted because whats the point of fitting fire doors if you are accepting two 600mm2 holes in the roof of the container assisted by fans.

All doors except external doors in a single occupancy domestic home should be FD20 doors and as you have FD30 doors you meet the requirement. Fire doors do not require self closers except any doors between the house and an integral garage. So you do not need to fit, hold open devices but if you do wish to fit them, then this is the wrong forum for you, check out fire alarm engineers forum http://firealarmengineers.com/forum/. Check out Approved Document B (fire safety) volume 1: dwellinghouses.

You can fit FR purpose build doors or shutters just surf for "fire resistantant serving hatch doors" and I am sure you will find what you need. Its a normal situation they are used generally in commercial premises.

Sounds like they are "maintained" emergency lights, maintained emergency lights are lit all the time because certain situations require it or it could be a fault, it may be worth getting a specialist to check it out.

It was common to use them on class A in this country, a few years ago but new type extinguisers have changed views generaly and now usually confined to flammable liquids.

I am not sure as b only referring to boundaries not fire spread, lets hope the revision is more clear.

I cannot be definitive without surveying the situation, but appears the corridor you speak of, is a means of escape route of comparative safety, that eventually will lead to ultimate safety and consequently will be a very low fire risk. Assuming this is correct and the travel distance is within the required limits, then it should be satisfactory.

As you are the Responsible Person for the whole of the building the FRA would have to cover the whole of the building, because fire safety that affects the lower floors will also affect the upper floors. However the fire risk assessor would only have to review the lower floor accomodation, if it has been done recently, and a full FRA on the upper floor accommodation.

Do you employ a management company?

Check it out with the fire alarm engineers forum at http://fir.ealarmengineers.com/forum/

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Are the flats, self contained?

The area that will be the dwelling needs to be separated from the garage area by a full 30 minutes separation and without knowing exactly how you intend to carry out your proposals I cannot give you a definitive response.

As far as I am aware there is no legislation requiring rim locks be fitted to front doors, but there is guidance that requires doors, needed for means of escape, should be easily opened without the need of a key. What surprises me is that you didn't require the joiner to fit a rim and dead lock which seems a normal arrangement for front doors.

Thanks Andy? :)

I would think it depends on the carpet used, if it has passed the hot nut test, then not that critical but fitting FR threshold is a much better solution.

Any glazing in a fire door has to meet the same standard as the fire door.