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Openings in Protected Shafts/Riser Cupboards
Tom Sutton replied to Jonny Roberts's topic in Fire Risk Assessments
I wouldn't, I would be more concerned with fire spread later in the development f the fire. I think meter cupboards would need to be risk assessed and may need cold smoke seals. I have been to a number of incidents involving electric meter cupboards so I do see a risk. -
Have tried to contact the manufacturer check out https://www.firesafe.co.uk.
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I think is is very unlikely you will be able to use the original base, even on Firesafe products but the wiring should be fine which you should be able to connect any base.
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Openings in Protected Shafts/Riser Cupboards
Tom Sutton replied to Jonny Roberts's topic in Fire Risk Assessments
The purpose of cold smoke seals is to prevent cold smoke percolating from a risk room to an escape route and smoke logging it, making it untenable. A lift or service shaft is not an escape route, however if the lift is used for means of escape then it would require rethinking if such a thing was considered. Why such shafts are protected is to prevent fire spreading from one floor to another in the later stages of a fire, smoke would not be a problem. -
All fire exit doors, fire resistant or not, require to be be easily opened without the need of a key and a thumb turn meets that requirement also does other types of locks. The front door, timber or not, in all flats, needs to meet that requirement.
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Do I need a fire panel for a 3 storey building
Tom Sutton replied to nwpattesting's topic in Fire Risk Assessments
Check out HOUSING – FIRE SAFETY Guidance on fire safety provisions for certain types of existing housing is the guidance for your premises and if you check out the appropriate section it will give you the answer you require. -
Firstly what labels have been removed are they the display or the permanent labels? The display labels are often removed soon after the furniture has been delivered but the permanent label are usually fixed so they are difficult to remove. Check out Fire safety of furniture and furnishings in the home A Guide to the UK Regulation.
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Your proposals are difficult to understand you need a detail drawing to explain fully what you intend to do but what ever you intend to do I cannot see why a 60 min fire door would be required, I would ask the building control why, also ask for a reference.
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Does this door form part of the means of escape?
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Check out 5.4 of http://www.cfpa-e.eu/wp-content/uploads/files/guidelines/CFPA_E_Guideline_No_7_2011_F.pdf they seem to be saying six metres which to be the advisory distance between tents and caravans. Have you checked with the insurance I am sure they will have opinions on this matter.
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Have you checked out http://www.mahoodmarquees.com/docs/mutamarq.pdf and https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-risk-assessment-large-places-of-assembly both covers marquees in your situation.
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It would all depend on how the lights are controlled, the street light out side my house is controlled by a relay and light depending resistor and switches on when it gets dark, off when it gets light. However if as you say the street lighting is not reliable then you would have to ignore it.
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Does wooden furniture need to be fireproofed?
Tom Sutton replied to a topic in Passive Fire Protection
First Emma don,t address your submission to me but to the forum I am just one of many who can answer them. It all depends what you mean by storage units and screens I would imagine they cannot be described as furniture and dependant on its purpose it could need to be fire resistance. -
The majority of subscribers on this forum are Joe public and I think you will get a better response on a forum like FireNet.
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Does your front door lead direct to outside and how do the people upstairs get to their accommodation if the staircase has been removed?
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You first need to understand the legislation check out https://www.firesafe.org.uk/furniture-and-furnishings-fire-safety-regulations-19881989-and-1993/ and the guide to the regulation contained therein (FIRA) this should simplify the understanding. When you purchase materials you need to get documentation showing it meets the required standards and you need to hold on to it for five years to prove to trading standards, if required, it meets the required standards. Display labels can be purchased online but the more important permanent labels are bespoke to the particular items you are manufacturing and must be created by a printer on your instructions. Using fire proofing spray is not recommended but there may be situations where there is no other solution.
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1. The major differences between external and internal doors are the style/width also external doors are usually fitted with weather boards. Most external exit doors do not need to be fire resistance and its location will decide if it requires to be fire resistance. In your case you require a FD30s fire door, complete with an approved self closer, the width will depend on the degree of security you require. 2. The Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 requires all work should be carried out by a competent person who is a person who has sufficient training and experience or knowledge and other qualities to enable him properly to assist in undertaking the preventive and protective measures. If you can prove, in the future, should you require to then you should be covered. 3. All doors opening into a protected route are required to be FD30s fire doors, fitted with approved self closing devices.
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Does a screwed-on fire door sign make a fire door invalid?
Tom Sutton replied to a topic in Fire Doors and Accessories
I would agree providing you are not cutting into the door, adding mouldings, soft or hardwood, would be acceptable, providing you are not going to increase the surface spread of flame properties. -
Your site is subject to the Construction (Design and Management) Regulations 2015, not the individual items and the guidance is https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/l153.htm. The requirement of fire extinguishers will be dependent on the size and layout of the site including any buildings temporary or permanent. Inward opening door are acceptable when the occupancy is less than 60 persons. Fire exit signs will be require if there is exits routes that are not familiar to the occupants.
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Check out https://www.bmtrada.com/certification-services/third-party-certification-fire/q-mark-fire-stopping-installation-scheme.
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I would suggest you contact https://www.bmtrada.com/certification-services/third-party-certification-fire/q-mark-fire-stopping-installation-scheme and put your proposals to them.
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You are subject to the Fire safety of furniture and furnishings in the contract and non-domestic sectors therefore you need to study this documentation and the finished product should meet a low hazard risk and be labelled accordingly.
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I would use https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fire-safety-risk-assessment-sleeping-accommodation which suggests 9 metres for single means of escape so in that case you will need all doors leading on the the stairwell must be FD30 fire doors. An interlinked group D domestic fire alarm should be acceptable.
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Flat fire door for private entrance
Tom Sutton replied to Nibarb's topic in Fire Doors and Accessories
It all depends on how it is fastened on the inside can you open it from the inside without the use of a key and is it relatively easy to open? -
Sorry Neil this happen to often I wish everybody would address the forum not me personally as there are many who could answer better than me.